Brigadier General James Hunt was a lieutenant colonel in 1971, Hunt ran the Phoenix training program in Saigon and 
Vung Tau. Privy to the inner-workings of the Phoenix Directorate, it bothered him that John Mason, the CIA officer 
in charge in 1970-1971, "blatantly lied." Hunt explains that, "Phoenix had been under the CIA; then MACV supposedly 
took it over. But we didn't really understand it, and that bothered us. There was always a suspicion. My impression 
was that John Mason worked for Colby through Jake, but he also had a close relationship with the chief of station - 
a professional relationship, back-channeling messages."

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